/bs/ - backstory

im reding crime and punishment by dostoyevski

>>299609
This thread was not made for you and I, little brother. Anyway backstory on shengen entry in the other thread when

well no. work, work, work. also insulating some old structures of house to save on heating during the winter

but yea ive also been reading a lot. reading knut hamsun book called hunger atm

>>299609
its pretty good book, but i think you would like notes from underground. its also dostojevski book.

>>299745
Kotia
But how have u been keeping up being so kawaii desu ne?

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>>299746
im naturally kawaii desu ne, ody odd

>>299609
Hate Dostoyevsky
>>299745
I see, you are still labouring in the computer coalmines. And on top of dat you are working on house. If only house could pay for work you do on it… actually, it does, it gets better for you!!!

I see, well, it seem dat you like Nordic literature or how do you describe realism thing. Thats a Nordic thing no? Either way, you loved those psychological book. Or is it philosophical book? Perhaps, its both. I just read about fascism, finished Emilo Gentile's book sacralization of politic in fascist Italy not long ago. Now reading Mack Smith's modern Italy. And also book about ritual, but dat is different matter…

>>299795
On top of the fact that it gets better for me, i dont mind house work as work. Its fun. I like the fact that you do a thing and then its basically good forever or as long as you get other plans. It also creating memories. Memories that matter. In everyday boring ass job you dont create memories, its just repetition. When you do something, even something as simple as put new paint to wall, you get to remember the moment you did that, and you get a feeling accomplishment. I also like basic house chores, like cleaning and stuff like that. Its just chill, there is no one breathing on your back, you can take your time, and can just dream and be happy.

Its such a sadness that society forces us to spend 8 hours of day in day job doing something we feel nothing about.

Yea i dunno. I like late 1800, early 1900 finnish and russian literature mostly, and some european existentialist writers. Well i mean thats what ive read mostly from that period. I dont know much about scandinavian literature from that era. This norwegian guy im now reading is the first book im reading from him. Its pretty good though. The protagonist is really weird, its hard to explain his personality. He has really mean thoughts about people, he lies a lot for his own amusement, some of his decisions seem rational, some completely irrational. Sometimes he just randomly gives away his last money to some beggar while being on the brink of starvation himself.

How come youve recently been so interested in fascism and its history? I mean youve always been interested in politics and stuff, but i cant help but notice u have been thinking fascism a lot recently. Maybe because whats up in the world and etc. I know a thing or two about italian fascism, but i dont think ive ever really read a book about it. So what are your thoughts? Do you view fascism more as religion than something else?

>>300120
Indeed, well, maybe you just like working… I struggle to remember color of my wallpaper though, but I would agree with you that making memory with something you hold very dear is cool indeed. I think life is mostly repetition for most people. And its kinda good, because it creates some structure to living. Though, it can be boring, but it really is not required to be. It sound like you really dont like going out though, well, but I were like dat too so big respect

I see, well, once you said dat you liked philosophical fiction, like Dostoyevsky book. But now you put great emphasis on personality, on behavior, trying to make sense of eccentric character. Maybe you are more interested in human psychology now? Or maybe you just read book for fun because its interesting… Well, you always been making stress on personalities though, like in Pendergast book, the Pendergast personality is wat you follow. I dunno about existentialism though, I only like authentic life thing but I feel that everyone is authentic even without trying, so, I dunno. Maybe if people choose to do some thing, we can trust them at their choice, most of the time

Well, Ive started reading about Fascism because Ive wanted to know who exactly I can call a fascist and be correct? You see, Ive noticed that in America, both Conservatives and Democrats call each other fascists all the time, but dats egregious hearing from Christian nationalists. But now I read about it and it makes sense, the church never really accepted fascism neither Nazi or Italian one. So, many Christians, especially Catholics, view fascist as really evil. Thats wat allows Christians to call leftists fascist, because a lot of Christians in America simply abhorre fascism and dats enough on its own to make people hate. So, yeah, fascism wasnt a religion exactly. Maybe Italian fascism was like a religion, because it was structured this way. But fascism as both Nazi type and Italian type arent exactly depend on being religious. Indeed, lowercase f fascism is an ultranationalist project for cleansing or recovering culture which is perceived to be in decay. So, fascism is a revolution, or counter revolution if you want, at least dat ia exactly how it was in Germany and Italy. Its fascinating, and reading about it more, it looks more and more paradoxical. In DVCE Italy, fascist soldiers were kept immortal by ritual, and yet, this solemnity was only needed for more sacrifice, not to make less sacrifice. Fascists wanted people to believe in fascist religion in Italy, but peasants didnt care at all, they only liked Mussolini. So fascism wasnt mass religion but in fact an elite religion, indeed, an esoteric clique or club

>>300164
yea, its the boredom of work i mostly struggle with, AI makes it worse to an extent. I mean it means more work, but you get less out of it. When you program by hand, even the most boring SaaS software, there is something in your work that you can take pride of. With AI you just write specs, i dont like writing specs. I like writing code. There is certain joy in programming, like solving a puzzle or something. Now there is no puzzle. just frustration and cursing at AI when it wont read my thoughts.

yea, im i like both. Well there is philosophy in personality of characters is there not? Like in camus book the stranger the whole philosophy is in the personality of character. But yes, i like people, fictional and real. But i think existentialism is very authentic though, its authentic to ask questions about existence to each of us.. I mean yes, there are existentialism philosophy which you are referring to, but in existentialist philosophy and literature a meaning is thought about a lot, the meaning of existence that is.

Well mussolini was anti-religion. He even wrote a pamphlet about it saying religion is fake and science will destroy religion. He even threatened catholic church, saying they will either do what he says or he will replace them with another religious institution (Julius Evola sort of stuff). I think you are very right saying it revolutionary, many see it as opposite, that its conservative. Its not, its very anti-conservative as we know that conservatives were their political enemies. So yeah, it isnt exactly right to say its a religion, even though it has religious aspects and as you say offers a esoteric club for gold members. But for this reason we have the word ideology, which is more suiting. Mussolini is weird guy, wasnt he marxists originally? I dont think he was big ideolog though. I think he first and foremost cared about power, very much a macho type of guy, very unlike hitler.

>>300318
I see, so, AI has permeated deeply in programming now. I listened to some professor saying dat AI is just gonna make people do more work and it seem dat you agree with dat. I just dont use it though, but you dont have dat option now. I dunno, I think relying on job being interesting is futile because boss will make it not fun if sees you having fun. Its just dat they dont like when people have fun, it clashes with their beliefs about how hard guy should work. After all, in their mind, guy cant work hard and have fun. Any way, I dunno how it is with AI thing, but Im kinda glad not to know…

Sure, there is. Its just I think of psychology very different from philosophy. I dunno wat I want to say, but for example motivations and explanations of motivations not the same isnt it? When in a slasher movie we follow from first person the killer, we kinda judge the guy ourselves, we kinda live his role while watching, so we understand motivations by following his thinking. In the Camus book, I dunno if you can follow his thinking like dat. I dont remember the book though, but I guess in philosophical literature things get explained by some exterior thing, like speech of narrator or a character different from main point of view. Thats wat I meant by psychology, that you kinda live the role of the main character and dats how you come to understand the guy's thinking. But as for existence, I dunno. I only like authentic life concept, but for me, there is no inauthentic life so I dunno. I dont think there is definite answer for question of meaning of life, but its not like I can say that there is no meaning to life at all. I guess meaning of life is a multiplicity and not a totality, like meaning of nature, meaning of culture, both can be defined, and from this constellation we can say dat there is meaning to life. Its just too big of a category for us to give it a short definition or a quick mnemonic quip

Sure, he wasnt exactly ideologically homogeneous with the fascist party. He had his own motivations. But I dont think he was exactly anti religion though, at least, he agreed to be part of a cult(Mussolini cult) and of a would-be religion of fascism

He was a leftist, but at dat time many were. Risogimento was an liberal and dysfunctional regime, so, when it began to disintegrate people become more radicalized because of inability of the system to solve any problems. Many people seen socialism as the answer, but because conservatives and nationalists have more power, it was just easier to forge alliances with them for fascists. Thats how it is a revolution, it strives for a total change in society. Mussolini changed his perspective on things when it suited him(at least thats how it looks. I havent read about him personally yet, I know far more about Hitler than DVCE)

Fascism is not really an ideology, its kinda difficult to say wat it is. There is ideological part to it, but its more than dat. But yes, fascism of both types was anti conservative because conservatives resisted

Eh, Hitler was power addicted. So, it is difficult to say who cared more about power, Mussolini or Hitler. Probably for both it was the most important thing. Any way, Mussolini was indeed a macho, but I guess in Italy people like dat were always popular. Like Garibaldi. So, it is not by coincidence Mussolini was made a deity. Fascists at first thought dat they could control Mussolini but he was too smooth of an operator and just subverted the party for himself and made fascist party to equal fo his person, which wasnt how it supposed to be in original plan. Hitler is very similar, though, Hitler has built his own party by, (unironically), his own will